Podcast Transcription
| Dan: | Episode 247, the Chrysalis episode. |
| Matt: | Aw. |
| Dan: | I know. |
| Matt: | It’s all right. He’s at a baseball game or something. |
| Dan: | Yeah, he didn’t tell me where he was going, which we’re going to have talk about that. I don’t appreciate him not checking in with me. |
| Matt: | It’s just nice to do. |
| Dan: | It’s courteous. Yeah. I don’t know, I mean, we’re a three man wrecking crew today, but we are going to have one guest star, a former cohost will come back- |
| Matt: | Maybe. |
| Dan: | … for a guest appearance. We’ll see. |
| Matt: | You never know. |
| Dan: | So as we always do, let’s start off with the weekends. Matt? |
| Matt: | Pretty uneventful. Worked Friday. Watched a bunch of basketball on Saturday. Went golfing on Sunday, drank at the pub, went home and promptly passed out. |
| Dan: | Nice. |
| Matt: | Yeah. |
| Dan: | Now was it the Final Four on Saturday for men’s basketball? |
| Matt: | It was the Final Four on Saturday, and we have the championship game today. |
| Dan: | On Monday night? |
| Matt: | On Monday night. |
| Dan: | Duke got bounced. So is it Florida and Houston? |
| Matt: | It’s Florida and Houston, the two teams I didn’t want there. |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Matt: | Bracket’s done. |
| Dan: | Damn. I wonder if there’s any brackets left around the country. |
| Matt: | I don’t know. We could probably look that up. |
| Dan: | Probably. Sunday, did you mention you did a little bit of golfing? |
| Matt: | Did. Golfed okay. First time out this year, so typically I don’t keep score the first time out, but we kept score yesterday. I golfed okay. |
| Dan: | I love the group conversation. And I, obviously, bartending on Sunday, Whaley, and Walker, and Evan, and all the regular golfers were in. And overhearing the conversation of, there was a plan for six or seven of you all to go out. |
| Matt: | Eight of us ready to go, supposedly. |
| Dan: | Woke up Sunday morning and it was a brisk 30 something? |
| Matt: | I think it was like 35 when I went outside to have a cigarette in the morning. |
| Dan: | Evan said he got up at 6:30. |
| Matt: | It was too cold. |
| Dan: | He kind of moseyed around, and then at 7:15 he’s like, “I’m not golfing. Nevermind.” |
| Matt: | So the weather wasn’t bad. The sun was out. It wasn’t windy. |
| Dan: | That was kind of the deceiving thing, is every time I stepped outside for anything I was like, “Oh God, it’s cold.” And then I’d hit the sun and I’m like, “Oh wait. Nope, nope, that sun’s making a big difference.” |
| Matt: | Yeah, the sun made a huge difference. |
| Dan: | Was it windy? |
| Matt: | Not bad. |
| Dan: | No? |
| Matt: | Little light breeze. |
| Dan: | I think Mike Herger said that it started getting windy on the last couple of holes. |
| Matt: | It picked up. |
| Dan: | Was he golfing with you guys or was he a different group? |
| Matt: | It wound up just being Mike, myself, and Walker. |
| Dan: | Walker? Yeah. |
| Matt: | Everybody else wussed out. |
| Dan: | Next Sunday though will be a whole lot different. I think it’s going to like- |
| Matt: | It’s going to be like 80. |
| Dan: | Yeah, 80 for a high that day, and sunny. Mark, do you have any kind of fun things over the weekend? I know the Dodgers… |
| Mark: | The Dodgers lost two out of three to the Phillies. |
| Dan: | Oh, man, I didn’t know they got… Oh, by the Phillies. I thought it was the Padres. |
| Mark: | No. |
| Dan: | Which would’ve made it much worse. |
| Mark: | Yes. Other than that, nothing. |
| Dan: | In sports around the country, Alex Ovechkin is the new GOAT when it comes to hockey. |
| Matt: | That’s a name. |
| Dan: | He broke Wayne Gretzky’s career goal record. And I- |
| Matt: | If you say so. |
| Dan: | Yeah, he did. Eight something, 800 and… |
| Matt: | Does it say how long he’s been in the league? Because Gretzky played for a long time, for Edmonton, and- |
| Mark: | LA. |
| Matt: | … the LA Kings. |
| Dan: | Let me do some searching here on the old Wikipedia. |
| Matt: | Gretzky was a hell of a hockey player and he’s got a really hot daughter. |
| Mark: | Yes. |
| Dan: | Does he? |
| Matt: | Yeah. She’s an international model. |
| Dan: | So looks like Ovechkin started playing in 2001. |
| Matt: | Okay. |
| Dan: | 24 year career. Was he 24 years in the league? |
| Matt: | I think that’s about what Gretzky played. |
| Dan: | Sheesh. |
| Matt: | That’s a long time to play pro hockey. |
| Dan: | Oh, he’s been in the NHL since 2004. So still, 20 year career. |
| Matt: | 20 years is still a long time to play any professional sport. |
| Dan: | I’m trying to scroll and find the actual number, but- |
| Matt: | And exhausting. A lot of them- |
| Dan: | Sorry, it’s eight something. I can’t find it. |
| Matt: | That’s a lot of goals. |
| Dan: | Has like 870. It’s in the upper parts of the eights. I mean, that’s crazy. |
| Matt: | It’s a lot of goals. You got to be pretty good. |
| Dan: | Mark, what’s that average over the 20-year career? Mr. Math. Call it 875. |
| Mark: | It would be about 47 goals a year. |
| Dan: | Man. |
| Matt: | It’s a lot. |
| Dan: | I don’t know anything about hockey, so I mean- |
| Matt: | I don’t know much. |
| Dan: | Yeah. I know that Alex Ovechkin is probably the new GOAT. And I was thinking about this today as I was driving around, this would be a better conversation for when Dan Whaley is joining us, but a lot of new GOATs, like LeBron versus Jordan, there’s- |
| Matt: | I like LeBron. |
| Dan: | … quite a few back and forth of like, “Well, yeah, but Jordan had this, and LeBron didn’t have that. And LeBron has this, and Jordan didn’t have…” But I don’t know if it’s the same case with this, because it doesn’t seem like hockey is much different of a sport. It’s still just kind of… I don’t know, but… |
| Matt: | I think any of them, they’ve all got their GOATs, and they’ve all got… Sports change over time, you know? You look at basketball, it’s, back when Jordan played, they ran plays. And- |
| Dan: | And it was brutal. |
| Matt: | And they beat the shit out of each other. Nowadays, it’s very protected. |
| Dan: | I mean, you watch some of those old clips of Detroit Pistons games. |
| Matt: | Oh, well they- |
| Dan: | I mean, they were straight-up just thugs. |
| Matt: | They were the bad boys of basketball. |
| Dan: | Yeah. Yeah. Anything else? I don’t think there’s any celebrities that died. |
| Matt: | I think it was a pretty uneventful weekend for just stuff in general. |
| Dan: | Yeah. It kind of was. How was Friday and Saturday at the pub? |
| Mark: | Really good. |
| Dan: | Really good? Sunday was back to kind of a normal day. |
| Matt: | I know we were busy Friday. I did not drive past on Saturday. Took a different route home. |
| Dan: | My two convenience stores that I see on Monday mornings, I have five Casey’s that I maintain, two of them absolutely got slaughtered over the weekend. I kept going in there looking like, did I forget to order some shit? And then I look back on their order history and I’m like, “No, I definitely ordered it.” |
| Matt: | It’s those basketball games. |
Glenkinchie – Distillers Edition
| Dan: | I guess. All right, that’s enough chit-chat. Mark, what’s the first whiskey we’re going to try? |
| Mark: | Glenkinchie Distillers Addition. A Distillers addition is a one and done that comes out generally once a year, and they do something different with it. This one is aged in ex- American bourbon oak, and then in Amontillado share casks. |
| Dan: | Can I see the bottle. |
| Mark: | Bottled at… |
| Dan: | I’ve never heard of an- |
| Mark: | … 4- |
| Dan: | Sorry. |
| Mark: | … 43 proof. |
| Dan: | I’ve never heard of an Amon… |
| Mark: | I haven’t either. |
| Dan: | Amontilla… See, and you asked me before we started recording how to pronounce it, and I thought I had it. Amontillado? A-M-O-N-T-I-L-L-A-D-O, Amontillado. Never heard of that before. |
| Matt: | It is a type of sherry wine characterized by its unique dual aging process, starting as a pheno, or manzanilla, and then undergoing oxidative aging, resulting in a dry, complex, and nutty flavor profile. |
| Dan: | Glenkinchie, I haven’t heard of this one. Is it relatively new? Is it new to the pub? |
| Mark: | No. That bottle has been in the pub for 10 years. |
| Dan: | Is it still around? |
| Matt: | I think so. |
| Mark: | Yes. |
| Matt: | This is like biting into an apple. |
| Mark: | Apple and honey. |
| Dan: | Well, if it is still around, they don’t have a website. |
| Matt: | This is one of those that it’s down in the way corner. |
| Dan: | Oh, no, it’s [inaudible 00:09:36]. |
| Matt: | So you kind of forget about it sometimes. |
| Mark: | Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. |
| Dan: | It gets hidden easily. |
| Matt: | It’s down in that bottom corner. |
| Mark: | I think the alcohol is a little forward for being a 43 ABB. |
| Dan: | Oh, God, I like that. |
| Mark: | It is very good. |
| Dan: | Oh and what is it a pour? 10 bucks a pour? |
| Matt: | 10 bucks. |
| Dan: | Thank you, sir. May I please have another? They are still an active distillery. |
| Matt: | It’s a little water, kind of cuts back on the apple and brings out more of the honey. But it also takes away that front-end heat. I think I like it better full strength. |
| Dan: | Well, now wait a minute, did they have something to do with Johnny Walker? Or is there maybe just the ad on their website? |
| Matt: | I don’t know if they would [inaudible 00:10:37]- |
| Dan: | Maybe they’re doing a collaboration with Johnny Walker. |
| Matt: | Yeah, this particular bottle was distilled in 2000 and bottled in 2014. It is owned by Diageo. |
| Dan: | I wonder if they just have some sort of… You okay over there? Okay. |
| Mark: | Keep in mind, Johnny Walker doesn’t distill their own booze. They buy boozes from other people and mix it together, so they could be buying some Glenkinchie due to their blends. |
| Dan: | Got it. This is the first website I’ve came across that does not have an About Us. |
| Matt: | Weird. |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Matt: | Sometimes I don’t like to take them off the company websites. Sometimes I like to do Whiskey Wash or Brown Jug guy, or… I feel like it’s a little more honest. |
| Dan: | This is very good. I really like this. |
| Matt: | Yeah, mine’s gone. And for 10 bucks you can’t be mad at it. |
| Dan: | Not a bit. For 15, I can definitely be mad at that Cavalon? |
| Matt: | Cavalon? Yeah, it’s not very good. |
| Dan: | Had a guy come in yesterday late in the shift and order a pour of the Cavalon port finish. So I had to try it at the end of the shift, and it’s not great. I don’t even know, I don’t want to put a negative connotation on it, because it does, but in the category of good, great, bad, not good… |
| Matt: | Yeah, I’d put it at like three on a scale of maybe a hundred thousand. |
| Dan: | Bagillion. |
| Matt: | Yeah, a hundred infinity. |
| Dan: | All right, that was Glenkinchie. By the way, to those that are not familiar with the Glen system of naming things, it’s used a lot in scotches. |
| Matt: | There’s a lot of Glens. |
| Dan: | Because a Glen is a geological… |
| Mark: | Clearing in the woods. |
| Dan: | Okay. And apparently, that was a really popular place to either put your distillery or just call it that. |
| Mark: | Well, when they first started distilling it was illegal, so they would go out in the woods and find a clearing and build their still. |
| Dan: | Ah. |
| Mark: | Then when it became legal they named whatever the Glen was. |
| Matt: | Steve. |
| Dan: | So that’s why you get a lot of the Glenmorangies, Glenlivets, Glenkinchie, Glen Moray. I mean, we could literally do it- |
| Matt: | John Glenn. |
| Dan: | John.. Oh, God, what an American treasure. You could go on forever about the Glens. It’s just kind of, I think that might be rule number three in your Scotch distillery, is- |
| Matt: | Better be a great Glen. |
| Dan: | … yeah, you have to name it after a Glen. |
| Matt: | Glen Campbell. |
| Dan: | Ooh. |
| Matt: | He’s a rhinestone cowboy. |
| Dan: | I heard. All right, whiskey number two. |
| Mark: | Oh, you’re wrong. Dennis the Menace died. |
| Matt: | Oh the guy that played Dennis the Menace? |
| Mark: | Something north. |
| Dan: | The original Dennis Menace, right? |
| Matt: | What the hell was his name? |
| Mark: | Johnny North? No, that- |
| Dan: | Jay North. |
| Mark: | Jay North. |
| Dan: | Jay North, TV’s original Dennis the Menace dies at 73. |
| Matt: | Huh? I would’ve guessed he was a little older than that. “Mr. Wilson…” |
| Dan: | Man, what a… First episode aired October 4th, 1959. And he looks to be- |
| Matt: | Probably like nine or 10. |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Mark: | That’s really good. |
Balblair – 15 Year
| Dan: | Mark, whiskey number two? |
| Mark: | Balblair 15. |
| Matt: | I like the nose on it. |
| Dan: | Balblair 15? |
| Mark: | Yes. |
| Matt: | 46%, so 92 proof. |
| Dan: | It’s very dark. Is it a scotch? |
| Matt: | Yep. |
| Dan: | Very dark for a scotch. Then again, so was this… Well, Glenkinchie’s medium darkness. |
| Mark: | What I find odd about the Balblair is they age it first in bourbon barrels, and then they age it in sherry butts. But the sherry butts they use have not been used to age sherry. So it’s just a big barrel. |
| Matt: | Weird. |
| Mark: | I find that usually you age in sherry barrels to get some of the sherry flavor. This one went around that and it worked. |
| Dan: | So before it being a sherry barrel, what is it? Is it Sherry… I thought what gave it the sherry was the wine. |
| Matt: | Yep. But they haven’t used these barrels yet. |
| Mark: | Correct. They built them to put Sherry in, and then Balblair came and bought them before they put Sherry in them. |
| Matt: | So yeah, so these are pretty much straight from the cooper. |
| Dan: | Yeah. Yeah. |
| Matt: | I like this. |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Mark: | I think it’s really tasty. |
| Matt: | This one’s a little more pricey than the last one. This one’s 20 bucks a pour. |
| Dan: | It’s got a good nose to it. |
| Matt: | It’s not near as fruity. |
| Dan: | This might be a good one for anybody wanting to make the transition from bourbon to scotches. This might be a good transition piece. |
| Matt: | I could see this as a good introductory. |
| Mark: | Yeah, there’s no one overpowering thing. |
| Matt: | Uh-uh. Like that last one, the apple for me was, it was like drinking watered down apple juice, almost. This is very well-balanced. I like this. Man. |
| Dan: | Yeah. And it’s got a nice long finish to it. |
| Matt: | Little peppery. |
| Dan: | So that again, Balblair, just regular Balblair? Or was there… Oh, the 15? |
| Matt: | That is the 15 year. |
| Mark: | They make a 12, 15, 18 and 25. |
| Dan: | Jesus. We just break stuff. |
| Matt: | Cheers. |
| Dan: | Back to my regular time at the pub trying to break shit. |
| Matt: | Did you say at the fair? |
| Dan: | I don’t know what I started to say. |
| Mark: | Retail on it is a buck thirty-ish. |
| Dan: | Buck thirty? Hm. All right. |
| Matt: | It’s Kevin. |
Ezra Brooks – 99 Proof
| Dan: | Matt, I see you have a recognizable bottle sitting up here. |
| Matt: | I do. This is one from Lux Row, that I haven’t had it in a long time. |
| Mark: | There’s yours. |
| Dan: | The special cask finish? |
| Matt: | This is the Ezra Brooks 99. It’s 49.5%, 99 proof. MSRP on it’s 35, but I’ve seen it all over the internet for anywhere from 30 to 50. Mash bill on it is 78 corn, 10% rye, 12% malted barley. And it’s the port finished. |
| Dan: | Woo, that has got a bite. And I’m deliberately not saying a burn. That, that’s rye. That’s a rye whiskey, they just misbottled it. |
| Matt: | No, it’s only 10% rye. |
| Dan: | Man. |
| Matt: | But it does stand out. Oh, my Jesus. I always worry when Kevin shows up with a mason jar of something. |
| Dan: | Yep. It’s a little frightening. |
| Mark: | Hi, Kev. |
| Kevin: | That’s how you know it going to be good. Hello. |
| Dan: | Welcome back to the pubcast. |
| Kevin: | I got behind a funeral procession, so that was fun. |
| Dan: | Oh. |
| Matt: | Was it Dennis the Menace’s? |
| Dan: | Oh, God, too soon? No. |
| Matt: | Probably not. |
| Dan: | Definitely not. |
| Matt: | Hey, he had a good run. |
| Dan: | He did. |
| Matt: | He did well. |
| Dan: | 79? He’s fine. |
| Matt: | Yeah, he’s doing great. |
| Dan: | Dennis the Menace, the original Dennis the Menace character actor died. Actor. |
| Kevin: | I thought he was an originally a like- |
| Dan: | Cartoon? |
| Kevin: | … animated thing. Yeah. |
| Mark: | Nope. |
| Matt: | It was a TV show in the ’50s. |
| Dan: | Was it a cartoon first? No? |
| Matt: | And then they made the comic strip out of it. And then when we were kids they had a cartoon. |
| Dan: | Who was… I know Walter Matthau was the old man. |
| Matt: | Played Mr. Wilson. |
| Dan: | Who was the… Wasn’t Dennis like Macaulay Culkin? Or… |
| Matt: | I think it was an unknown. |
| Kevin: | Except the internet will know. |
| Dan: | Now I got to Google it again. |
| Matt: | Yeah, the internet will definitely know. |
| Dan: | Dennis the Menace 1993 film. And, oh, yeah, who was that? |
| Kevin: | It does look like Macaulay Culkin, though. You’re not wrong, as a kid. |
| Dan: | Yeah. What’s the guy’s name? Mason Gamble. |
| Mark: | I don’t get any bite out of that. It’s very good. |
| Matt: | It’s got- |
| Dan: | You don’t get any kind of rye bite? Hm. |
| Mark: | I get the port though. |
| Matt: | Oh, the port’s very prominent. And it’s only- |
| Dan: | Ooh. |
| Matt: | … secondary finish for six months. |
| Dan: | Second sniffing of it definitely gives me a little bit of a pickle. |
| Matt: | You are- |
| Mark: | You and your fucking pickle. |
| Matt: | Womp, womp. |
| Dan: | You’ve never complained about my pickle before. |
| Matt: | Oh, wow. |
| Mark: | Oh, this is going to go well. |
| Matt: | Silence. |
| Dan: | By the way- |
| Kevin: | I was kind of hoping Flum would be here. I think he’s the one that would for sure like this the most. |
| Dan: | Oh, yeah, that’s… Yeah, Flum is currently on vacation. |
| Matt: | Or something. |
| Kevin: | From his part-time hobby that he could have done? |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Kevin: | Oh. |
| Dan: | Well, he’s not on vacation a mile away from here. We think he’s down to Kansas City. |
| Kevin: | Oh, they actually left the city. Okay. |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Matt: | Yeah. |
| Kevin: | I was like, I feel like twice a year he takes a staycation. So… |
| Matt: | Oh yeah, that’s to use up his rollover days. |
| Dan: | PTO. So Kevin showed up with unlabeled mason jar. Whoo-hoo, I’ve really… Listen, that Ezra Brooks 99, I really like that. For a whiskey that’s going to… It’ll last you half hour, 45 minutes. |
| Matt: | Oh, yeah, I would- |
| Dan: | Might even last you an hour with the way we pour. |
| Matt: | I would drink that slow. I would definitely drink that slowly. But I like it. Lux Road puts out good stuff. |
| Mark: | Kev? |
| Dan: | Yeah. Kev’s going to try it now. Mark, you liked it though? |
| Mark: | Yes. |
| Dan: | Yeah. Good stuff. Good pick, Matt. |
| Matt: | Thanks. |
| Dan: | Do we want to do Kev’s next? Or do we want to do an open treasure? |
| Matt: | Can do Kevin’s. |
| Dan: | Okay. |
| Kevin: | I mean, this is the first pour of it, so it’s kind of unopened too, until I [inaudible 00:22:41]- |
| Matt: | This can be our unopened- |
| Dan: | Oh, no. |
| Matt: | … [inaudible 00:22:43] unopened treasure. |
Buffalo Trace
| Dan: | We’ll need to get more. |
| Kevin: | And it’s a good idea other people could theoretically do as well. |
| Matt: | Well, I’ll still do my other one. |
| Dan: | Okay. So, Kev? |
| Kevin: | So- |
| Dan: | Oh. |
| Kevin: | Said YouTuber that I watch that puts things in jars, every now and then he does one that’s really, really good. And this one seemed like a great idea. |
| Matt: | So what’s the liquor in this? |
| Kevin: | Buffalo Trace. |
| Matt: | So it’s whiskey, it’s bourbon. |
| Kevin: | Yes. Actually- |
| Dan: | I get a lot of lemon on the nose. |
| Matt: | A lot of some- |
| Dan: | Maybe, no, a citrus. |
| Matt: | … sort of citrus fruit. Lemon or orange. |
| Dan: | Yeah, my second sniff, I’m getting orange. |
| Kevin: | That is… |
| Matt: | All right, Kevin… |
| Kevin: | … about perfect. |
| Matt: | What’d you do? |
| Kevin: | Lemonheads. |
| Matt: | Ah. |
| Dan: | God dammit. |
| Matt: | That’s right, this guy does put all sorts of weird shit in. |
| Kevin: | Yeah, he does weird shit. But if he does one that he’s legit 10 out of 10 on, I’m like, okay, I got to try it. And like- |
| Mark: | Now, do you just put Buffalo Trace in there, throw a bunch of Lemonheads and let it sit? |
| Kevin: | Yep. It took about- |
| Matt: | Let it dissolve. |
| Kevin: | I put it in Friday night when I got home, and they dissolved fully by this morning. |
| Dan: | Oh, wow. |
| Matt: | This would be absolutely fantastic in a hot toddy. |
| Dan: | Ooh. |
| Kevin: | That, or I was thinking just like over ice as a whiskey sour. |
| Matt: | Yeah. |
| Kevin: | Because the sour really didn’t come through, just the lemon flavor did. Which I am not mad that I did that at all. |
| Mark: | Wow. |
| Matt: | And it’s not overly sweet on the palate. |
| Kevin: | Yeah. |
| Matt: | You would think it would be crazy… Yeah, it’s really lemony. |
| Dan: | It’s a bit… Mark- |
| Mark: | That is lemony on the nose. |
| Matt: | Yeah, it’s kind of Pledge-ish. |
| Kevin: | That’s a decent description. |
| Mark: | Yes, definitely lemon Pledge. |
| Kevin: | I thought the sour would come through more. That’s the only thing I’d have to say bad about it. |
| Dan: | I just hate lemon. |
| Kevin: | Oh. |
| Dan: | The only thing I hate about that is I hate lemon. |
| Kevin: | Oh, that’ll do it. |
| Dan: | And it’s specifically lemon-scented Pledge. |
| Matt: | See, I would love this in a hot toddy. |
| Kevin: | That- |
| Mark: | Nope. |
| Kevin: | … or a lot of lemonade. Just put it over- |
| Matt: | Yeah, you could do a 50/50 this and lemonade. |
| Kevin: | Yeah. |
| Dan: | Yeah, I figured that was going to be too sugary for you, Mark. |
| Mark: | Too sugary, too much lemon Pledge. |
| Dan: | But- |
| Matt: | I shouldn’t have said anything. |
| Kevin: | Yeah. |
| Mark: | No, it’s definitely, or Pine-sol. |
| Kevin: | I mean, it works though, because lemon Pledge and the wood cleaner, you know, it’s barrel-aged so… |
| Matt: | This would definitely clean you out. |
| Dan: | I love it. Kevin, I’ve missed you. He’s like, well, you know, it works, lemon the wood cleaner, and there’s the wood barrel. Making the connections. |
| Kevin: | Yep. |
| Matt: | Oh, wow. |
| Kevin: | I’ll have to leave it here until Flum can try it next week then. |
| Matt: | No, this, I don’t hate this. Now I would have to do something with it, whether you mix it with lemonade to even it out, or maybe even a touch more whiskey. |
| Dan: | Just rake in the Buffalo Trace? So what was the ratio? He walked away, so I’ll try to relay to those listening, but what was the ratio to Lemonheads? |
| Matt: | All the Lemonheads. |
| Kevin: | I had a bag that was like, filled it probably two-thirds of the way, and then poured pretty much the entire bottle of Buffalo Trace in. |
| Dan: | Okay. |
| Kevin: | Minus- |
| Matt: | Interesting. |
| Kevin: | … enough I made one cocktail outside of it. |
| Dan: | That’s an interesting concoction. |
| Matt: | Which I, and the guy online, he’s kind of a weird dude. |
| Kevin: | Yep. |
| Matt: | He’s put some weird stuff in different alcohols. |
| Kevin: | With some lemonade, that’s really good. Put it over ice, a little bit of lemonade. |
| Matt: | Oh, that would be dangerous. |
| Kevin: | Yes. |
| Matt: | That’s puking good. |
| Kevin: | You could drink it way too fast. |
| Matt: | Oh yeah, like that mason jar would be gone quick. |
| Kevin: | Yeah. |
| Matt: | Because you taste no alcohol. |
| Kevin: | It’s convenient I got the big mason jars that hold 800 milliliters, so it’s like a 750 fits in it perfectly, and then you just top it with the rest. |
| Matt: | I might need one of those for golf. |
| Dan: | Oh, man. I bet your elbow wouldn’t hurt afterwards. |
| Matt: | Not one bit. |
| Dan: | Your liver would though. |
| Matt: | My face wouldn’t feel like anything |
| Dan: | And you might get an extra round of diabetes out of it. |
| Matt: | Just light diabetes. |
| Kevin: | Bonus, yeah. |
| Matt: | Adult onset. It’s not as bad. |
| Dan: | It’s fine. |
| Matt: | Type 2. |
| Dan: | It’s manageable by diet. |
| Matt: | Yeah. Oh, yeah. |
| Dan: | All right, so thanks, Kev. |
| Kevin: | Yeah. |
| Dan: | That’s really good. |
| Kevin: | Yeah. I was excited to try it and you know- |
| Dan: | Thank you for bringing it along. |
| Kevin: | … this gave me a reason to not wait until this weekend. |
| Mark: | I would experiment with it to figure it out. But straight like that, it’s too… |
| Kevin: | Yeah. |
| Mark: | Cleaning solution-y. |
| Matt: | But I think you could probably make something pretty outrageously good. |
| Dan: | Yeah. Yeah. What else is new with you? House okay? |
| Kevin: | Yep. Yep. That’s the only new whiskey thing I know of, outside of, I did see, since I know the Derby’s coming up again, and I was at Hy-Vee yesterday and they had Mint Julep Old Forester. |
| Matt: | Yeah, like pre-made Mint Juleps. |
| Dan: | Mint Julep Old Forester. |
| Kevin: | Yep. I had to text Matt that. And I was like, this would be hilarious for when Danny Whaley comes in asking if we could have Mint Juleps. And be like, “Oh, look what we got. You can.” |
| Mark: | I heard you ran into Moe at the gym. How did that go? |
| Kevin: | Yeah. It was fine. |
| Matt: | Hope nobody got hurt. Ha, ha, ha. |
| Kevin: | Nope. |
| Dan: | Because you ran into her. |
| Matt: | Because they ran into each other. |
| Kevin: | Well, I mean a little bit, like she could have just not stopped and hit me as… Because I was walking across the parking lot and I see her pulling in. And I was like, “Oh-“ |
| Matt: | She just runs Kevin over. |
| Dan: | Oh, that’ll hurt worse for you. |
| Kevin: | That would’ve been awkward. |
| Matt: | It’s okay, it’s my stepson. |
| Dan: | “Oh, bump.” |
| Matt: | “Oh. Oh, geez. I was driving a little fast in the parking lot.” |
| Mark: | On… |
| Dan: | Marky Mark? |
| Mark: | … late last week or early this week, I was getting out of my car at home and looked at Moe’s car. |
| Matt: | Uh-oh. |
| Mark: | She has obviously gotten too close to something. Scraped paint, a little butted… |
| Dan: | Oh. |
| Mark: | … not straight. She has not mentioned this to me. |
| Dan: | She may not know it. |
| Kevin: | So have you mentioned it to her yet? |
| Matt: | Jesus. |
| Dan: | I think it’s 50/50. |
| Mark: | No. The reason I haven’t mentioned it to her yet is because I know it would start a fight- |
| Kevin: | Oh, yeah. |
| Mark: | … because she would feel bad. |
| Matt: | And it’s not worth the argument. |
| Mark: | No. |
| Matt: | Most things aren’t worth the argument. |
| Dan: | No. No, no, no, no. |
| Matt: | You just say, “Yes, dear.” And that’s it. |
| Dan: | I think that’s rule number one to a long-lasting relationship, is know what fights to fight. |
| Matt: | Yeah. Like a- |
| Dan: | And no what ones to just let rest. |
| Matt: | … you got to know when to hold ’em and when to fold ’em. |
| Dan: | You do. God damn that Kenny Rodgers. |
| Matt: | When to walk away and when to run. |
| Dan: | Yeah. That’s such a good song. |
| Mark: | Do I want to die on this hill? |
| Dan: | Right. |
| Mark: | No. |
| Dan: | Right. |
| Mark: | So… |
| Matt: | I don’t even want to be on the hill. |
| Dan: | Uh-uh. I just want to sit in my basement. |
| Matt: | I’ll just hang out over here next to the hill. |
| Dan: | I’ll be on the smaller of the two hills. |
| Matt: | There’s a parking lot down there that I parked in by the hill. |
| Dan: | There’s a bunch of Vietnam vets having trouble right now listening to us talking about taking hills. |
| Matt: | So I’m just going to hang out in the lot. |
| Kevin: | I was trying to make a joke about the Kate Bush song, but I couldn’t remember exactly how it goes. |
| Dan: | Oh, yeah. |
| Kevin: | Run up this hill, right? Something? |
| Dan: | Yeah, the one that Stranger Things made popular? |
| Kevin: | Yep. Brought it back. Wasn’t it like the only song to ever be number one in two different decades or something like that now? |
| Matt: | What song is that? |
| Kevin: | The Kate Bush song Running Up the Hill, or whatever, because it was in Stranger Things. |
| Matt: | I don’t know, I’ve never seen Stranger Things. |
| Dan: | Oh man, you’re missing out. |
| Mark: | You know, I watched most of the first season and went, “Eh.” |
| Dan: | No? |
| Mark: | No. Not investing |
| Kevin: | The first season was a struggle, honestly. Like, it was not nearly as good as the rest of them. |
| Dan: | Oh see, I thought one and two were great. Three was tough and four had its moments. |
| Matt: | We’ve been watching a lot of stand-up comedians lately. |
| Dan: | That’s a good thing. |
| Matt: | Shane Gillis. |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Matt: | Bert Kreischer. Joe Rogan’s pretty damn funny. |
| Dan: | Is he? Yeah, I- |
| Matt: | Tom Segura. |
| Dan: | I miss my, there was a channel on my Tesla radio that was just two three-minute comedy bits. |
| Matt: | Yeah, it’s perfect. |
| Dan: | I just drive around and listen to comedy bits all day, and just laugh my ass off. And then they introduced ads and now I stopped listening to it. |
| Matt: | Ads suck. |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Mark: | Rude. |
Hirsch – The Bivouac
| Dan: | It’s annoying. All right, Matt? |
| Matt: | Okay, dokey, this is Hirsch Bivouac. Bivouac is a temporary structure that survivalists and nature minimalists use as shelter. It’s 50%, a hundred proof. It’s a blend of two different bourbons. 95% of it is three year five month old bourbon that is 75% corn, 21% rye, 4% barley, and the other 5% is eight year bourbon that is 72% corn, 13 rye, and 15% barley. |
| Dan: | By the way, Kevin, I’m calling your drink the Buffalo Drop. |
| Kevin: | Okay. |
| Matt: | Wow, good- |
| Dan: | I came up with that on my own. |
| Kevin: | Yeah. |
| Matt: | I get lots of corn in that. |
| Kevin: | Yep. |
| Matt: | It’s hot. |
| Kevin: | All right. |
| Matt: | At a hundred proof, that drink’s warm. |
| Mark: | Yes, it is. |
| Matt: | Flavor wise, I- |
| Kevin: | You can have more of this one, Dan. |
| Matt: | I think it’s pretty good. |
| Dan: | Thank you. I needed it. |
| Kevin: | It’s okay. |
| Mark: | Oh, by the way, Dan, the drummer for Blondie also died this weekend. |
| Dan: | Are you kidding me? |
| Mark: | Clem Burke. |
| Matt: | Clem Burke, that sounds made up. |
| Dan: | Clem. |
| Mark: | He actually created Blondie and then hired Deborah Harry. |
| Dan: | Good hire. That was a good hire. Did we talk about Val Kilmer dying? |
| Matt: | He died last week, didn’t he? |
| Dan: | I think he died later in the week, or maybe just after we’d recorded. |
| Matt: | Yeah, Val Kilmer dead. |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Matt: | Which we all knew it was coming. He wasn’t in very good shape. |
| Dan: | But he hung on for a long time. What, he got diagnosed with throat cancer in like ’13? |
| Matt: | Something like that. Then they did all the removal, which is why he couldn’t act anymore, because he could barely talk. |
| Dan: | Except for that reappearance in Top Gun 2. |
| Matt: | Which he only had… I bet he only said 10 words. The rest of it was all typing on a computer, texting. I like this stuff. |
| Dan: | “They need Maverick.” |
| Matt: | And then the next scene he was dead. |
| Dan: | This is fine. What do you think? |
| Matt: | It’s about 11 bucks a pour. I wouldn’t be mad about paying that for it. |
| Dan: | Nope. |
| Matt: | It’s a little hot. I think water would probably help bring some more of the flavors out a little bit, take some of that astringency way. But it’s good. I would drink this, especially for 11 bucks. |
| Kevin: | There was something funky I didn’t care for. |
| Matt: | Now it does burn the shit out of your tongue. |
| Dan: | It’s got some warmth. It has got some warmth. |
| Matt: | No, the water really didn’t help it much. |
| Dan: | All right, that was Hershey? |
| Matt: | Hirsch. |
| Dan: | Hirsch. Oh, there is no [inaudible 00:34:58]- |
| Kevin: | No E-I. |
| Mark: | And I’m still burping lemon. |
| Dan: | S… S? H-I-R-S-C-H. |
| Matt: | Yep. And this is the Bivouac. |
| Dan: | The Bivouac. Okay. All right. I think that’s all we got. |
| Matt: | Yeah. |
| Dan: | Kev, you got any tap takeovers coming? |
| Kevin: | I’ve reached out to a few people, and then keep getting no response back when they go to send me a list or anything. So no. |
| Dan: | Okay. |
| Matt: | Well that makes it tough. |
| Kevin: | It does. |
| Dan: | That reminds me, I was going to have TJ from Backswing come today and guest host- |
| Matt: | Announce? |
| Dan: | … with Chris being gone, but… |
| Matt: | Oops. |
| Dan: | … forgot. |
| Matt: | That’s all right. |
| Kevin: | Happens. |
| Dan: | Sorry, TJ. |
| Mark: | We’re early, do we have a top 10? |
| Dan: | Matt’s got one, but we kind of talked about maybe waiting until Chris gets back. |
| Mark: | Ah, fuck him. |
| Dan: | Do we want to do it, just have Kev join in it? |
| Matt: | Yeah, we can do it. Yeah- |
| Dan: | Let’s do that. |
| Kevin: | Okay. |
| Dan: | Because we are very early. We’ve been doing, I think we’re like 45 minutes in. All right, so we are going to do a surprise top 10. Matt’s worked on this. |
| Matt: | These are top 10 overrated bands. |
| Dan: | Oh, I’m going to like this. |
| Mark: | Okay, let’s get the ground rules. |
| Matt: | Well, that’s what I’m working on. I’m going to spell it out a little better than Chris did last week. |
| Kevin: | Yeah, his seemed very vague, listening to it. |
| Matt: | Because these go anywhere from the ’60s all the way up to the early 2000s. There’s not a lot of new bands on this. You’re not going to get… I can’t even think of a new band right now. |
| Kevin: | People we’ve never heard of? |
| Dan: | New Direction. |
| Matt: | Who? |
| Dan: | Wait, One Direction. |
| Matt: | Or them. |
| Dan: | Ed Sheeran? |
| Matt: | None of that. No Adele. |
| Dan: | No Adele. No Adele? |
| Matt: | No Adele. |
| Dan: | Okay. All right. |
| Matt: | This is the top 10 overrated bands. |
| Dan: | Is this just bands or artists also? |
| Matt: | It is just bands. |
| Dan: | Okay. |
| Matt: | No solo artists. |
| Dan: | And they have at least three entries. |
| Mark: | And one being the most overrated? |
| Matt: | Yes. |
| Dan: | Yes. |
| Mark: | And 10- |
| Dan: | So if they’re not… Yeah. I already know what my number one is, but we will wait. |
| Matt: | It might not even be on this list. |
| Dan: | I mean, yeah, it may not. |
| Mark: | We have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. |
| Kevin: | Approximately 14. |
| Dan: | Double counting. It’s good to measure twice [inaudible 00:37:24]- |
| Matt: | I guess we have 14 of them. And then I did- |
| Dan: | 14, so four vetoes. Okay. All right. |
| Matt: | We’ll just start at the top and work to the bottom. |
| Dan: | Yeah, good. |
| Matt: | Oasis. |
| Dan: | Oh, ooh. Aye, God, I don’t think they were overrated at all. |
| Matt: | I don’t know, they made a lot of overrated band lists. |
| Dan: | Huh. |
| Kevin: | Huh. |
| Dan: | I think, in my book, they were very disappointing, because they were incredibly talented, but they couldn’t quit fighting. |
| Matt: | Well, the two brothers hated each other. |
| Dan: | Yeah, they really did. It was [inaudible 00:37:54]- |
| Kevin: | I’m going to have to look up songs for some of them, because I’m awful at names. |
| Dan: | Champagne Supernova. Wonderwall was probably their biggest. |
| Kevin: | That’s probably why, I’m guessing. |
| Dan: | << Today is going to be the day that they’re going to give it back to you >>. |
| Matt: | Yep. |
| Dan: | That’d be an eight for me, I guess, if I got to put it on a list. |
| Mark: | Eight or nine. |
| Dan: | Yeah, I’d be fine with nine too. I don’t want to hit 10, because I think there’s probably going to be… |
| Matt: | Someone that’s a little less? |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Kevin: | Well then, wouldn’t you want to do seven? And be like, people think they’re overrated probably because of Wonderwall becoming literally a meme? I mean. |
| Dan: | They’re the poster children. Well, in my generation, their the poster children for not getting along. |
| Matt: | Them and the two from the Black Crows. |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Matt: | Because they have fist fought on stage before. |
| Dan: | Oh, man, a good- |
| Matt: | Both of them. Both sets. |
| Dan: | A good band fist fight is just… |
| Matt: | That’s why you don’t start a band with your brother. |
| Dan: | That’s right. That’s right. All right, what are we going? 8, 9, 7. |
| Matt: | So you’re saying, what are we thinking? |
| Mark: | Eight’s fine. |
| Dan: | I think eight’s fine. Kev, you good with eight? |
| Kevin: | Mm-hmm. |
| Dan: | Kev’s good. Okay, Oasis? |
| Kevin: | I was just thinking there’s going to be probably one or two other ones that are… |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Kevin: | Oh, I guess nine, 10, that give you two. |
| Matt: | U2. |
| Mark: | Ooh… |
| Matt: | Which this would be number one for me. |
| Dan: | As overrated? |
| Matt: | I hate them. |
| Dan: | Wow? |
| Matt: | I hate them. |
| Dan: | See,, this is going to be such a differential for me, because I don’t care for them. |
| Kevin: | Yeah, super indifferent. Like- |
| Dan: | Like, The Beatles, I’m not going to go seek out The Beatles, but I give them respect for what they did. And I think U2 is kind of in that same category. |
| Matt: | Which you have four skips, four vetoes. |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Kevin: | I think I’ve heard of three songs from them that I was like, yeah, I don’t mind this. But like- |
| Matt: | For me, everything was just too political, and too, we’re going to save the world. Shut the- |
| Kevin: | And I remember all the hate they got when one of the first iPod touches or whatever that came out or whatever, where they like- |
| Matt: | It came with their album on it or something? |
| Kevin: | Yeah. They got a deal with Apple, and they just put it on every new device for a while. |
| Dan: | And it didn’t do as well as they wanted to. |
| Matt: | No, it was horrible. |
| Kevin: | Yeah, and the album was bad. |
| Dan: | So Apple illegally downloaded it onto everybody’s computer that had iTunes, and they got into a ton of trouble because of it. Because they were illegally putting software on somebody’s computer that didn’t want it. |
| Matt: | Whatever works. |
| Dan: | I’m a nine or a 10, or a veto. |
| Mark: | Yes. I’m good with any of those. |
| Dan: | Kev? You’re the deciding factor. |
| Kevin: | I don’t care. Music is tough for me, because I’m like, I listen to Pandora. That’s the extent of how I listen to music. So I don’t, very rarely listen to one artist to know a lot of their songs, or really have an opinion outside of the one or two popular ones that play. |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Kevin: | So like- |
| Matt: | So do you like them more or less than Oasis? |
| Dan: | I’m going to veto. I’m going to lean veto. |
| Matt: | Oh. |
| Kevin: | That’s fine. |
| Mark: | Okay. |
| Matt: | The next one is Bon Jovi. |
| Dan: | The band that was originally classified as hair metal. |
| Matt: | Yeah. I mean they all had hair. |
| Dan: | They did and it was a lot of hair. They were a very ’80s band. |
| Matt: | They’re halfway there. |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Matt: | Living on a prayer. |
| Dan: | Ah, man, I mean, they’ve got four or five rockers that are just huge hits. |
| Matt: | Yeah. |
| Dan: | Mark? I feel like you were cruising around the streets of Omaha jamming some Bon Jovi. |
| Mark: | Oh, no, they were after me. |
| Dan: | Okay. |
| Mark: | I’d give them a four. |
| Matt: | I like Mark’s line of thinking. |
| Dan: | Okay. |
| Mark: | They’re a little overrated, but they did do some good work. |
| Dan: | All right, four. |
| Matt: | Four? |
| Kevin: | That’s fair. I feel like this could also be the same band list, but you could do the meme-worthy ones. |
| Matt: | Which these could also be some of the most popular bands. |
| Kevin: | True. |
| Matt: | Which is why they make the overrated list. Next band is the Foo Fighters. |
| Dan: | Oh, no. |
| Kevin: | 10 |
| Dan: | God, I love me some Dave Grohl. Oh, shit. |
| Kevin: | That’s got to be a 10, right? |
| Dan: | I think so. I think that might be my 10. |
| Kevin: | Like I wouldn’t say that they’re overrated. They have some of the craziest live shows. |
| Dan: | Yeah. I mean I give- |
| Matt: | There’s others. |
| Dan: | … Dave Grohl a ton of credit, because he not only was in a major band that changed music, but also created another band that helped the genre along. And he was two different positions in the band. |
| Matt: | Yeah, he was. |
| Dan: | And then he was also in Queens of the Stone Age back as a drummer. |
| Matt: | Yeah. Well that was his little side gig thing. But we’re not talking about Queens of the Stone Age. |
| Dan: | Right. |
| Matt: | Or just Dave Grohl. |
| Kevin: | Not yet, maybe. |
| Matt: | We’re talking about the entire band. |
| Dan: | Mark, what do you- |
| Kevin: | He carries- |
| Dan: | I think I’m 10. I could be convinced for a nine to leave the 10 open, but… |
| Mark: | I’m not a Foo Fighters or a whatever they were, Foo Fighters fan, so you put them wherever you want. |
| Dan: | Kev, what do you think? A nine or 10? |
| Kevin: | I feel like a 10 is not a bad choice. |
| Dan: | 10 |
| Kevin: | Like… |
| Matt: | The Beatles. |
| Dan: | That’s a two for me. |
| Matt: | Wow. |
| Dan: | For me. |
| Matt: | Wow, that was a fast two also. |
| Dan: | Yeah, well, they’re not my number one. Number one’s going to piss some people off. |
| Mark: | You know, the problem with The Beatles is they made some really good music, but they weren’t as good as everybody wants you to believe. |
| Matt: | I could see that. |
| Mark: | I’d give them a five. |
| Dan: | Okay. |
| Kevin: | I think that’s solid. Yeah, because they definitely have some songs that even I know of, but I’m like, I wouldn’t say I’ve gone through and tried… They wouldn’t be in my mind to go through and listen to all of them. Just like, you know- |
| Matt: | I was never a big Beatles fan. |
| Dan: | Me neither. |
| Matt: | Now, I like Paul McCartney stuff, I like John Lennon stuff, but I’m not big on The Beatles. |
| Dan: | I don’t think we talked about it, but there is a four-part movie series that’s in the works. It’s all been greenlit. It’s all about four individual movies, biopic movies about the individual people in The Beatles, the four artists. |
| Matt: | Ringo’s is going to be quick. |
| Dan: | You know, he was one of the best-selling Beatles artists. He outsold- |
| Matt: | After the fact? |
| Dan: | I think he was the best-selling. I’d read some weird thing about how- |
| Matt: | Ringo Starr? |
| Dan: | Yeah. Or maybe he had more number one hits than in any of the other ones. |
| Matt: | He was great as the conductor on Shining Time Station. |
| Kevin: | I just love the quote that he’s not even the best drummer in The Beatles. |
| Matt: | No, he is really not. |
| Kevin: | Which I was like, how did you manage that then? Like… |
| Matt: | I blame the dangly earring. |
| Dan: | Because he replaced a guy just before they exploded, right? |
| Mark: | Pete. |
| Dan: | Pete Best? That was actually a joke. Was it really Pete Best? Did Pete Best go on to play something else? |
| Mark: | It was Pete something. And no, he left and probably shot himself to- |
| Dan: | It was Pete Best. |
| Matt: | Two years later. |
| Kevin: | I mean- |
| Mark: | I quit The Beatles. |
| Dan: | Oh, did he quit? |
| Mark: | Yes. They did not fire him. |
| Matt: | They found him hanging from a rafter somewhere. So The Beatles is five? |
| Dan: | Yeah, Beatles is five. Sorry, we got distracted there. |
| Matt: | Next band is Kiss. |
| Mark: | Oh. |
| Matt: | The original Kiss. |
| Dan: | Mark, this is your… |
| Mark: | What’s the most overrated number we have left? |
| Dan: | One. We have one, two, and three. |
| Matt: | You are 4, 5, 8 and 10 have been selected. |
| Mark: | I would go, Dan’s got one he’s waiting for us, so I’ll go two. |
| Dan: | I don’t think it’s going to be on this list, so feel free to take one. |
| Mark: | Oh, there’s got to be somebody else more overrated. |
| Matt: | Oh, yeah. |
| Mark: | But Kiss was- |
| Kevin: | I mean, there’s, what’s the other really big ’80s hair band kind of like them? Isn’t there another one that’s similar? That’s like- |
| Matt: | Oh, you had Poison, you had Mötley Crüe. |
| Dan: | Def Leppard. |
| Matt: | Def Leppard. And Def Leppard was around for a long time. |
| Dan: | Guns N’ Roses could be considered an ’80s hair band. |
| Matt: | It could be. Guns N’ Roses was just awesome though. |
| Kevin: | I guess two make sense then. I was thinking there was somebody else that was bigger than them, but in that same vein, that I was like, I’d say was worse. But maybe it was just them. |
| Dan: | Ratt. |
| Matt: | << Round and round >>. |
| Dan: | <<… love’ll find a way, just give it time >>. |
| Mark: | Kiss was mediocre musicians who came up with a stage play that sold. |
| Dan: | I don’t think you’ve said anything more right, in the history of this podcast. You nailed it. |
| Matt: | They were. |
| Dan: | And you said some very right things. |
| Kevin: | And two right things about whiskey. |
| Mark: | And just so you know, I went to that concert in 1975 or ’76. |
| Matt: | Civic Auditorium. |
| Mark: | Mm-hmm. |
| Matt: | Because I’ve heard their stage show is outrageously good. |
| Mark: | Oh, yeah, but it’s four mediocre musicians. |
| Dan: | Yeah. All right. |
| Matt: | So two? |
| Dan: | Two. |
| Matt: | Phew. Nirvana. |
| Dan: | One. That’s my one. |
| Matt: | Wow. |
| Dan: | The best thing to happen to Nirvana in their career is Kurt Cobain- |
| Matt: | Don’s say it. |
| Dan: | … and the shotgun. |
| Matt: | Wow. |
| Dan: | I’ve spent a majority of my time in radio listening to their songs, and I’m so fucking sick of them. And I think they would’ve been a good band if Kurt Cobain would’ve lived. He killed himself and they became an amazing band. |
| Matt: | Well, they became- |
| Kevin: | Two other people. |
| Dan: | Or Courtney killed him. I mean, either way. I mean- |
| Matt: | Whatever worked. |
| Dan: | Either way, he died. |
| Kevin: | They became, yeah, I don’t even know what the- |
| Mark: | I’ll go with you at one because- |
| Dan: | Number one. |
| Mark: | … I am not either a Nirvana, nor a grunge fan. |
| Dan: | Yeah. I mean, we give them credit because they created an entire genre. |
| Matt: | They did. |
| Dan: | Which doesn’t happen a lot. |
| Matt: | Seattle Rock. |
| Dan: | And they killed a genre. I mean, they basically ended- |
| Matt: | Literally. Yeah, it fucked Pearl Jam over. |
| Dan: | Yeah. Not Pearl Jam, Guns N’ Roses. It ended that entire genre. |
| Matt: | Yeah. |
| Dan: | Dead in its tracks. But I am so sick and tired of listening to it. |
| Matt: | So Nirvana’s number one. |
| Dan: | Nirvana’s number one. I can’t believe it’s on the list. |
| Kevin: | There’s one I- |
| Matt: | ACDC. Yep. Ha, ha. |
| Mark: | Well, I have consistently said that ACDC is the most genius band in rock. Because- |
| Dan: | I’m going to agree with everything you say here. |
| Mark: | Because they put out the same song every year for 25 years, and every one of them goes to top 10. |
| Dan: | So I’m going nine, because that’s our lowest one we have available. And the reason why is because if an ACDC song comes on the radio, I am still head banging to it. |
| Matt: | You do know it. |
| Dan: | If a Nirvana song comes on the radio, I turn the station. |
| Matt: | That’s fair. |
| Mark: | I’ll go up with that. |
| Dan: | Nine. |
| Matt: | You still have a few vetoes left also. |
| Dan: | Oh, yeah, geez. |
| Matt: | This next band is everyone’s favorite, Nickelback. |
| Kevin: | I was waiting for that one too. But not because I think they’re overrated, I just think they’re a hilarious meme band. They fit into so many conversations. |
| Dan: | It’s popular to make fun of them, but everybody has at least one, if not two Nickelback songs in their collection. |
| Matt: | I don’t. I do not. Zero. |
| Dan: | I think you’re lying. |
| Matt: | Zero. |
| Dan: | I’m calling you a liar. |
| Matt: | Nope. Zero. 100% zero. Nickelback makes me never want to go to Canada. |
| Dan: | See, and now I can’t veto Nickelback if I didn’t veto ACDC. I forgot about the vetos. |
| Kevin: | So three? |
| Matt: | Yeah, three would be the next lowest available. |
| Dan: | << Look at this photograph >>. |
| Kevin: | Exactly. |
| Matt: | You know, every time I do it makes me laugh. |
| Dan: | It does. |
| Kevin: | Just because the song is so goofy. |
| Dan: | And they are some dirty rockers. |
| Matt: | And they used to be like heavy metal before they got famous. |
| Dan: | Yeah, their song Breathe was awesome. Their first mainstream record was really, really good. |
| Matt: | It was a hit. |
| Dan: | And then they leaned more pop-y than rock-y. |
| Matt: | Well, they got signed to the Spider-Man soundtrack and that just blew them up. Then they toured for five or six years on one album. |
| Dan: | I would go… We got three, six, and seven. |
| Matt: | And three more vetoes. |
| Dan: | We might have pickled ourselves here, guys. Forgot about the vetos. |
| Kevin: | Or you’re just saying good ones that are fun to talk about. |
| Dan: | Six? It feels a little low. |
| Mark: | I can’t tell you that I know a Nickelback song. |
| Kevin: | Outside of photograph, I can’t think of another one either. But- |
| Dan: | Do you even know that one? |
| Kevin: | … I’ve probably heard some. |
| Dan: | God, that was everywhere. And then Hero, the Animal song. |
| Matt: | Had Rockstar. |
| Dan: | Rockstar’s a good song. |
| Kevin: | Every band has a song called Rockstar, though, pretty much. |
| Dan: | It was a formula. |
| Matt: | Thanks, Hardy. Animals, Never Going to Be Alone, If Everyone Cared. They got a ton of music. |
| Kevin: | Yeah. |
| Matt: | Photograph. |
| Kevin: | Yeah, like 20 something albums, isn’t it? Or upwards of that. |
| Dan: | I guess I would probably be seven. Six or seven for me. |
| Matt: | I have 12 before you expand it. |
| Dan: | If we don’t veto it. |
| Kevin: | Okay. |
| Dan: | And I feel terrible if we do veto it, because [inaudible 00:52:25]. |
| Matt: | I might just leave if you veto Nickelback. |
| Dan: | Six or seven, let’s not get Matt to leave. |
| Kevin: | Whatever, seven’s fine. |
| Dan: | Seven. |
| Matt: | The Red Hot Chili Peppers. |
| Dan: | Oh. |
| Matt: | And you still have vetoes left. |
| Dan: | If it wasn’t for the Rick Rubin album, I think I’d be on board with you. And what was that, California? Californication? |
| Matt: | Californication. |
| Dan: | That was such an amazing album. |
| Matt: | Which, I don’t dislike Red Hot Chili Peppers. I’ve seen them in concert probably five times at the Ranch Bowl back in the ’90s. |
| Dan: | Which, maybe the argument is that they really haven’t been able to do anything since then. |
| Matt: | Grow mustaches. |
| Dan: | Yeah. Man, now I’m kind of talking myself into a six. |
| Kevin: | I mean, well, or you could just veto them. |
| Dan: | I could. |
| Kevin: | And be like, eh, they’re- |
| Matt: | There’s still four bands left. |
| Kevin: | … like an 11, so they’re good enough to… |
| Matt: | They’re no Spinal Tap. |
| Dan: | They do not go to 11. Man, what do you think, Kev? |
| Kevin: | I don’t mind them. They come on my Cage Elephant radio pretty often. |
| Dan: | Here’s the problem- |
| Matt: | You can veto them. |
| Dan: | That we’ve got… Well, I’m going to have to veto them. Because, we’ve got two spots left. And if we put them at six, then we’ve got veto, veto, and then put somebody into number three. |
| Matt: | Yeah. |
| Kevin: | Just got to hope there’s somebody annoying coming up. |
| Dan: | Veto or six? |
| Kevin: | Yeah, veto. |
| Dan: | Veto? Okay. |
| Matt: | Guns N’ Roses. |
| Mark: | Oh, I would put them at the most overrated we’ve got. |
| Dan: | Three? |
| Mark: | They had one good album. |
| Dan: | They did. Appetite for Destruction was really good. |
| Matt: | It was a two disc album though. |
| Dan: | Oh, yeah. |
| Matt: | They had one and two. |
| Dan: | Yeah, I think they released one after that and then they broke up? |
| Matt: | Yep. |
| Dan: | Yeah, I’d go three. |
| Matt: | Three works? |
| Kevin: | Yep. |
| Mark: | All right. |
| Matt: | The Eagles. |
| Dan: | Mark? Originally a country band? |
| Mark: | If they put out all the albums up to Hotel California today, they would be a country band. |
| Dan: | Yep. |
| Mark: | I don’t think they’re overrated, so I would veto that one. |
| Dan: | Okay. I do believe they go back and forth with Michael Jackson on the best-selling album of all time. And it’s their greatest hits disc record. It’s not like one of their solo, their regular albums. Their compilation disc, I believe goes back and forth. All right, veto? |
| Matt: | Two, three. Okay, so there’s one veto left and two bands. |
| Dan: | Uh, oh, we got to have two vetoes left then. |
| Kevin: | The Eagles Best Hits has 40 something million certified copies. Michael Jackson’s thriller has 51. |
| Dan: | Okay, so Michael’s pulled out. And that was Beat It? |
| Kevin: | Thriller. |
| Dan: | Thriller. |
| Kevin: | And then ACDC’s has number two at 31 million, Back In Black. |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Matt: | Yeah, there’s two left. You have one veto and you got to pick one. |
| Dan: | Please. Two songs left. |
| Matt: | Two bands left. |
| Dan: | Or two bands left. Okay. All right. I thought you said there was three bands left. |
| Matt: | Nope, just two. |
| Dan: | Okay. |
| Matt: | So REM. |
| Dan: | Ooh, I am thinking six. |
| Matt: | Everybody hurts sometimes. |
| Kevin: | Michael Stipes, right? |
| Matt: | Yeah. |
| Dan: | Yeah. |
| Matt: | They were huge in the ’80s. |
| Dan: | They were. Oof. |
| Matt: | But they’re like that whiny band, that it’s just like, “Oh God, I’m sick of listening to this fucker whine about shit.” Jesus, put your GAP sweatshirt on and go to band practice. |
| Dan: | Shut up. |
| Matt: | Whiny bitch. |
| Dan: | Yeah, I’m kind of thinking six. Six feels good to me for that one. |
| Kevin: | Mm-hmm. |
| Mark: | I’m fine with it. |
| Dan: | Okay. |
| Matt: | You got two bands left and one veto. |
| Dan: | I think I’m comfortable with six. |
| Matt: | So you’re going to want to veto Led Zeppelin? |
| Dan: | I think I’m okay with that. If I knew between the two, I’d put REM on the list and leave Led Zeppelin off. Although, I’d put Led Zeppelin on and not ACDC. |
| Matt: | See, I like Led Zeppelin better than I like the ACDC. |
| Dan: | Do you? |
| Matt: | But that’s personal preference. |
| Mark: | Okay. |
| Dan: | All right, that’s our list. |
| Kevin: | And what was the bonus one that we missed? |
| Dan: | Led Zeppelin. |
| Kevin: | Oh. |
| Matt: | Number ten is Foo Fighters. Number nine is ACDC. Number eight is Oasis. Nickelback’s in at number seven. Number six is REM. Number five is The Beatles. Number four is the guys from Bon Jovi. Number three is Guns N’ Roses. Number two is Kiss. And our number one overrated band is Nirvana. |
| Dan: | Yep. Now on your list that you Googled, who is commonly number one? |
| Matt: | I saw Nirvana at number one. I saw ACDC at number one. I saw Kiss at number one. I looked at probably six or eight different lists. |
| Dan: | Yeah? |
| Matt: | It kind of bounced around. I think part of it probably just depends on what website it was on. |
| Dan: | Yeah. All right, I think that does it for us. We got a Whiskey Wednesday coming up? |
| Matt: | Next month. |
| Dan: | That was… Yeah, it’ll be… God, fucking, we’re already talking May. |
| Matt: | Yeah. |
| Dan: | Come on. It’ll be May 7th, the day after the Sith national holiday. May the Sith be with you. |
| Matt: | Oh, you dork. |
| Dan: | I took 10 minutes to explain that to somebody. When we were leaving, we’d set an appointment for May 4th, and she’s like, “May the fourth be with you.” And I’m like, “Yeah, a couple days later, May the Sith be with you”. She was so confused, and I’m like, “Because the fourth is a Jedi holiday and the sixth, the Sith.” I literally… Finally, I was just like- |
| Matt: | Are they really holidays? |
| Dan: | Yes. |
| Matt: | Does anyone get the day off of work? I know the pub’s open. And if someone shows up with a lightsaber, so help their soul. Don’t show up with a light. |
| Dan: | I’m putting it in my calendar now. |
| Matt: | Trust me- |
| Dan: | Mark, you got anything else for us? |
| Mark: | Nope. |
| Dan: | Awesome. Fuck Nirvana. Bye, everybody. |
| Matt: | Yeah, bye. Fuck them. Tacos. |
| Dan: | Fuck them. Tacos. |
